For example, A 850 in FH5 is closer to S1 900 in FH4. You can add more hp/grip/weight reduction into each class. Slick racing tires are available for all carsĮvery class limit has been moved by the same amount so that every class now allows more PI relative to FH4.Now with that in mind, it's hard to compare FH4 and FH5 for two reasons: You just need to tune the car correctly and make some compromises along the way. I'm just saying that high class RWD wasn't as bad as people keep making it out to be. That's also not to say that a high power AWD setup wasn't the most competitive in FH4 (it most certainly was). Obviously, finding that data is not always easy. My guess is that the developers just ask for the raw data from manufacturers and plug it into the game directly, so cars react positively to tuning changes that would benefit them in real life too. I've found that the best way to approach a car is to consider its real life counterpart (including its characteristics like camber curves, ride harmonics etc.) and tune based on that. The handling physics in Horizon are actually more nuanced and sophisticated than a lot of people give it credit for. To be frank, most builds out there are pretty trash. I've driven a bunch of different S2 RWD builds in FH4 and I generally found the issue to not be the drivetrain, but rather the build or tuning settings. I'll need more time to test out more builds but generally speaking I would mostly say no, but with a caveat. Perhaps Unbeatable AI is too high of a benchmark for what makes a really good car in this game.Įdited by user Monday, Novem11:12:27 PM(UTC) I've only made a handful of tunes so far. As a disclaimer, I'll just say it is early in the game and I could be wrong about all of this. The difficulty braking in this game forced me to put the ugly Forza wing on the aforementioned Audi TT and this wouldn't have been necessary in FH4. You didn't really ask about race Aero, but that is another unfortunate requirement of the new game physics. I just plain refuse to do it on some builds. I hate swapping drivetrains and adding aero and both are as necessary as ever if you want to be able to beat the Unbeatable AI or have an OP car for online use. There are already some OP power builds that use 2WD but they are the exception and not the norm. HokiHoshi says, in his upgrading guide for FH5, that although AWD swap was powerful in previous Horizon games, RWD/FWD is much more viable in online/competitive play in FH5. I spent over 12 hours of testing on this car, mostly spent swapping parts out. This is just one example of course and perhaps there is another build path I should have taken. It beats unbeatable AI on both Road and Dirt. I built an A class Audi TT RS meant for all surfaces and the offroad tire build outbroke the Rally tire on tarmac and the loss in lateral grip was remedied by the extra power gained and AWD. I agree with most of your findings, but I've found at least one example where offroad tires are better than rally tires even on tarmac. We're locked into the offroad on dirt meta until FH6.Įdited by user Monday, Novem5:11:14 AM(UTC) Unfortunately, I don't think there is any realistic way for the devs to change the situation. ![]() And it's not that offroads should be worse either, it's just that their PI cost is too little. I'm not at all happy about the situation. I want to be clear that I'm just sharing the information I've found. We've found them to be the only option on lower class dirt builds, and have used them effectively all the way to S1. I would agree though that offroads don't cost as much PI as they should. ![]() However, on tarmac rally tires have a clear advantage. A large part of it is tire pressure rally tires will be more even with offroads once you release a lot of pressure out of the tires. So far my group and I have noticed that offroads are superior to rally tires on loose surfaces. I think this is a flaw in game design and might render rally tires almost useless. For some reason, they brake better than Rally tires at much lower PI cost. I could be wrong but offroad tires w/ AWD are probably going to be OP in A and lower clbutts. Something else I've noticed in building out cars so far.
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